Why do black stars and cincy grow apart?

    Thursday, April 3, 2008, 02:10 PM EST [General]

    I'm saying it now. I didn't say all black stars, I said some. With Chad being the most recent. We have to be realistic about where we all live. This is my opinion; I believe that this is a very conservative city and for those that have never left the tri-state area a bit slow compared to the rest of the country. (Try driving a huge moving truck with a car hitched to the back in jam packed traffic going 95 mph on the freeway. Crazy when your not from there, but I grew up driving on the back country roads of Indiana and polished my skills off in clifton) That's why I recommend Bar 13 the next time your in wrigleyville. It's down from the shell gas station.

    We're not use to flashy black folk in this region and never have been. Where I'm from, it would be like Woody Austin from Richmond coming in to Connersville to play in the Spartan Bowl(greatest gyms for high school basketball are in Indiana). The town I'm from was loyal to the blacks on there team and that was it. Get the other @#$@ %@'s!!! Chad Johnson is big city and he works in little city and espn are antagonist. Starting stuff all the time. Just to find somebody to blame for last year's misfortune, I saw the city's media and fans start picking apart Chad's performances game by game.  For real people, was it all his fault? He did have over forteen hundred yards with a great qb with a subpar line.  No one ever remembered that though, it was always what Chad did wrong that game. After time the conclusion came to trade him. I don't see how, you as fans would rather see great reciever in TJ(I'll give him that) instead of a Lynn Swann hybrid in Chad Johnson have a tremendous stat shattering season with a fully loaded offense.  I will say that it all depends on Rudi, he's what we have.

    I'm just pleading with the city to be careful of there opinions. This same city wanting to get rid of the black guy demonstrating his feelings no matter what they are(you never get mad at your job?) allowed some guys to come down to fountain square and demonstrate there feelings with crosses and white sheets. This is just Chad and business is business. You don't have to like him, just like what he does to d's. ignore espn

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    The Chad Johnson saga has nothing to do with him being black. It has to do with a selfish player wanting more money. I would love to have Chad back if he agreed to be a team player. I could care less if he is white,black, red or green.

    Joe Clown
    April 03, 2008
    02:16 PM EST

    i can only comment about the last 20 years or so, but cincy has certainly not always treated its black stars fairly.

    i don't know if i ever realized it growing up, either, until i lived in michigan for a few years and spent a lot of time in and around detroit. it was interesting how different the views were.

    the whole thing in cincy kind of reminds me of some of branch rickey's thinking about jackie robinson... if he wanted to put a black man in a major league uniform, it couldn't be just anyone. it had to be someone strong enough to take the abuse and "well-behaved" enough to be beyond reproach.

    times have changed a lot, i think, in the last 60 years. but in cincinnati, at least, black players seem to be held to a slightly different standard. i'm not sure for all the reasons behind it, either.

    i think that the most accurate might be what you mentioned... chad is a "big city" guy, and this town tends to be suspicious of that kind of thing, whether it comes from a white guy, a black guy, a hispanic guy, whatever... it's another strike against him, essentially, and when he does things that are, in my opinion, questionable for a "professional" athlete (you can't show up to workouts when you're getting paid? you can't talk to local media when you will shoot your mouth off to the national media?)... well, i guess i would say that he's already in a position as a black athlete in cincinnati where he's being held to a higher standard, and he's not helping matters with his behavior.


    rpa
    April 03, 2008
    02:26 PM EST

    Unless the black athlete acts likes sensible "sellout" Don people in the white community are scared to death of black athletes. And lord help them if the guy is highly educated and self assured like Marvin lewis. Then they are called arogant. He is only arrogant enough not to take any crap off of white people who dont control your destiny.

    Big Black Boot
    April 04, 2008
    11:50 AM EST