C. Trent

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    Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 08:39 AM EST [life o' C. Trent]

    Last night was some of the most interesting television I've seen in a while, and it had nothing to do with the Reds or Johnny Cueto.

    I didn't see all of it, so I've already hit the DVR to record it tonight, but on Bob Costas NOW on HBO, Costas held a Town Hall-type meeting on Sports Media. I missed the beginning, because of the Reds, Mario Kart Wii and ignorance, but did catch the end of it. It's replaying today at 6:30 p.m. I'll be rewatching the parts I saw plus the other parts.

    It was an interesting discussion, and one I'd love to have with you, the consumer, on the changing roles of sports media. It also had segments on the relationship between media memebers and athletes, race and the media and athletes, blogs and traditional media and other topics. Check it out if you have interest, and I'll start a discussion in my forum.

    Anyway, it was really interesting discussion and featured folks like Buzz Bissinger (Friday Night Lights author and bitter little guy -- I'm embarassed that he 'represented' me and much of my viewpoint), Will Leitch (Deadspin), Jason Whitlock (KC Star), Mike Wilbon (Washington Post, PTI -- and yes, I used that order on purpose), Dan Patrick (late of ESPN), Mitch Albom (sappy books in airports everywhere), Selena Roberts (Sports Illustrated, late of the NY Times and one of the absolute best in the biz), Braylon Edwards (Cleveland Browns, and poor 'other' guy while Bissinger is oldmanning on Leitch) and others.

    Please, if you have any interest in the topic, watch. Unfortuantely, it was only 90 minutes for five very large topics -- Sports Talk Radio, the Internet and Impact of Bloggers, Sports Television, Athletes and the Media: a Complicated Marriage and A Conversation about Race.

    In all, it was really well-done, except for Bissinger coming off looking like a cranky old man (and even though I agreed with the basis of some of the things he said, he made Leitch look much better, because Leitch handled it much better and was smart about his arguments and, well, Buzz just doesn't get it).

    Seriously, over on the forum, or if I write more about this, I'll share my Bissinger story. And that said, his book is one of my all-time favorites, but he just seems like a self-important little prick.

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    don't get hbo so couldn't watch last night, but read leitch's recap on deadspin this morning...sounds like bissinger really lost it...leitch remains gracious in his post show discussion.

    been interested in your thoughts on the topic for a while...how has your access to the local teams changed, if at all, working for clear channel vs. the paper? how about relationships with the beat writers / rob butcher? do you think legit blogs like deadspin, the big lead, etc. deserve the same access as established newspapers?

    beaverton
    April 30, 2008
    09:15 AM EST

    i'm not sure deadspin wants the access... and i wouldn't call the big lead a legit website. the big lead is rumor-mongering crap with no regard for the truth or any journalistic ethics

    because i have wlw behind me, i've received very little difference in my day-to-day access. also, somehow i was grandfathered in with an at-large bbwaa card, so, well, i don't have to worry about access at mlb at all

    C. Trent
    April 30, 2008
    09:21 AM EST

    those probably weren't good examples...but in general, what qualifications do you think a non-traditional media outlet should have in order to have the access enjoyed by the mainstream media?

    i believe there's sufficient demand for both mainstream and non-traditional sources, but the way so many traditional media members come off like condescending d-bags anytime the issue is discussed is a total turn-off to the people they're trying to sell their product to...i have yet to hear the mainstream media argument expressed in a way that made me want to subscribe to a newspaper

    beaverton
    April 30, 2008
    09:57 AM EST

    thing is, i think a lot of the non-traditional media sets the tone against the traditional media and puts them on their toes...

    i'm not sure either one -- and, well, i'm kinda both now -- has an open and honest discussion, instead both are on the offensive because they're being defensive, if that makes any sense...

    i think i'm going to write more about it tonight

    C. Trent
    April 30, 2008
    10:56 AM EST

    It seems like they wanted to have two discussions during that segment, and Leitch didn't know which to discuss.

    First, Bissinger wanted to say that the level of writing on the blogs is poor, and I believe he thinks this will lead to the downfall of America and democracy. Second, they wanted to talk about how blogs and non-traditional media is killing off the old media. As usual they discussed traditional writers and bloggers as if they were the only part of the equation; leaving out, predictably, the consumer.

    People like to talk about how the old guard will become extinct, but I think something different is inevitable. The market is readjusting, not evaporating. People who were never happy getting their news from papers, for whatever reason, now have different options, and they are exploring them. However, there is still a segment of the pop. who love the work journalists do, and will not abandon them, even if they have their local paper opened next to their computer which is programmed to Deadspin. There will even be people who explore with blogs and only then realize that they miss reading the views of people who do have access.

    On the first point of the degradation of the written word, has Bissinger forgot about all the crap that has been written before Al Gore invented the net? Were Page Six, and the National Enquirer not the precursors to The Big Lead, and With Leather? Do. I. Have. To. Remind. Him. That. Not. All. People. Love. Hemmingway?

    Sabo
    April 30, 2008
    02:10 PM EST
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