Ouch... I didn't expect the Bengals to go 16-0 so a loss in its self isnt the end of the world. But DAMN!! Not sure I've ever seen the Bengals so lost and incompitent (thats a strong statement). Obviously Mikey is the owner/general manager so it all goes back to him...how do you blame yesterday on the owner/gm tho?? Just like its not Marvins call to hire/fire personel its not Mikey's job to coach and prepare the team. They did have a copy of the schedule right? They knew they were playing the Ravens and that they were supposed to prepare for that dfense and a bunch of rookies on offense right? I've always stood up for Marvin but after yesterday....nope. I put 100% of the blame on him and the rest of his seemingly incompitent coaches. When Carson Palmer even looks like a lost fool on the field (how many delay of game penalties did he have?) you know they werent ready for the game. Screaming about the dfense seems dumb, I didnt expect them to be any better than mediocre did you?? The offense didnt do a damn thing to help them out all day. I dont think there is an argument whether or not  this offense has the tools to be top 10...they've been better than that in the past. So it must come back to coaching. I think everyone is missing the obvious choice for headcoach next year. You all know him. He's been under Mikeys grooming wing for years and has always been 100% untouchable. Who could it be besides Bratkowski?? Is there really any other choice you could see Mikey making!? I've been doing some investigating and I'm pretty sure he's married to Brown's adopted daughter (could there be any other explanation) so this move would complete Mikey's heirarchy of incompitence at PDS. Thats right the whole worthless family will finally be in place. While I'm absolutly disgusted by yesterdays performance I'm not ready to give up on the season yet...I dont think any real fan is, just the losers who are biching even when things are going ok (not meant as a personal attack just dont understand why you bother following a team you cant say anything halfway positive about even before the season starts). Tho If they play the same way next week I may have to revisit that stance. All of you people who are screaming that anyone who buys tickets to next weeks game is stupid..well being that the entire season is already sold out ...seems like we arent exactly the stupid ones in this conversation...try to keep up with the subject you are talking about!! Finally while I despise the way Mikey runs this team, you dont REALLY want the NFL to step in and force him to run this team a certain way do you?!?!?!?!!??? Last time I checked this is America and not China. Mikey may be running a shty business but it is his business and he has the right to run it however he sees fit. Thats one of the great things about capitalism and the U.S. last time I checked. We dont have a commie govt telling us how to run our businesses or how to live our lives. At the end of the day business is driven by customers and revanue...when they stop coming in he wont have a choice but to either change his ways or sell. Sorry for the economics recap but there seem to be a lot of ignorant...sorry misinformed (I'm trying to work on being more P.C. since many of you seem to be so damn sensative ha) people. Now if you think the NFL should set certain guidlines for ALL of it's owners to follow then we could have a very productive conversation....