Jason

    Griffey and the love/hate relationship

    Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:50 AM EST [General]

    Griffey leaving is ending a marriage that has really been over for years.  I hope he stays and rides off into the sunset at the end of the year, but I know he really wants to win a ring.  He needs to do what's best for him and his family.

    In related trade news, it was comical to see that Manny Ramirez said that Boston "doesn't deserve him."  If that's true, then I'm ready for the salary cap in baseball.  It must be nice to kick players around, win a World Series, and then go out and pick up your next whipping boy.

    Which leads me to my point: this city never deserved Griffey.  Griffey is guilty of two things - thinking he still has the body of a 21-year-old and injuring himself while playing hard.  At least at 38 years old he's not sitting out a few games for a strained ring finger.

    I've lived in Cincinnati for all of my 30 years, and it's been embarrassing to see how people have treated him - on blogs, at the ballpark, in the media, and on talk radio.  When it comes to football, we still cheer for guys like Ocho Whino and Chris Henry - people seemingly short on character - when they score.  We ignore the fact that Chris Perry hasn't produced since joining the Bengals.  But when it comes to baseball, the nay-sayers come out in full force when a legend doesn't make the catch after diving and tearing his rotator cuff.

    I'll say it to whoever will listen: signing a contract in sports, regardless of its length, is a gamble.  Listening to callers complain "we're paying him all of that money to sit on the bench" made my stomach turn.  Nobody came out and immediately complained like I did when the Reds gave millions to a guy like Eric Milton.  But we ride the case of an icon because he has to have major surgery that could end his career.

    Eric Davis never played more than 135 games a season, but the city loves him.  Hall-of-famer? Nope.

    Pete Rose goes to jail for tax evasion and finally tells the truth about betting on the game after more than a decade.  We cry that he should be in the Hall and raise our beer glasses when his name is mentioned.

    The "Kid" comes home and signs a contract for less than the market value to a team whose front office lied to him.  No pitching.  No defense. Just sitting back and riding the Griffey mania wave and hoping the dollars will flow.  And we expected to ride Junior to the World Series?

    How long can we continue to wear out the memories of the Big Red Machine and the Wire-to-wire season?  Junior never had that kind of team along side of him and it was obvious that it wasn't going to happen.  So people thought it bright to take shots at the superstar because they needed someone to blame.  Never mind "Uncle Carl," minor league managers, bad trades, and a litany of other media parades that were nothing more than a smokescreen to hide the fact that they had no intention of building a contender.

    I will miss the time we've had with one of the greatest players of all time.  It's sad that the city will never wake up and realize what it had. 

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    Very well said, I agree with everything you said. It will be comical to hear the callers to sportstalk radio bitch and moan about the players we got in return. I can hear it now..."We should have gotten more for Griffey, I can't believe that we got these two bums for him" blah blah blah...this town will never appreciate what they have till everything is gone. Good luck Jr...you will be missed!

    Sean
    July 31, 2008
    12:06 PM EST

    I won't miss the time he's been here at all.

    Marc
    July 31, 2008
    12:18 PM EST

    I for one could not be happer that "Junior" is finally exiting The Queen City, a move that is at least three years past due. I remember taking the day off of work to watch and record the press conference when he became a Red. I remember Carl Linder remarking that Griffey would be breaking (at that time) Henry Aaron's homerun record in a Cincinnati Red's uniform. If we only knew then what we know now. Griffey is the single largest disappointment in the history of Reds. Will he be a first ballot Hall of Famer? Yes, he will be. But he made those numbers at Seattle. If his career were filled with the numbers that he has accumulated while being in Cincinnati, he would hardly make the All-Star Team.

    Na Na Na Na... Na Na Na Na.. Hey Hey Hey, GOODBYE..

    Thadd
    July 31, 2008
    12:25 PM EST

    Let's take a good look at the numbers and not let our emotions get the better of us. (For some reason the stats keep showing up at the bottom, so look at them before you read on.)

    I don't know about you, but that is pretty staggering. The only number that improved was the SO's went down, but not in proportion to his AB's. And yes, I do realize that a players numbers will decrease as they get older, but if you look at the last year he played in seattle vs. the first in cincinnati, there is an instantaneous change. He went from 24 stolen bases to 6. He went from 349 total bases to 289 and then to 194 the following year. One of the biggest indicators of an aggressive player is speed and the willingness to use it. No matter who your manager is, if you go from 31 attempted stolen bases to 10 of the course of one season, doesn't that show a lack of aggression.

    I think the reason that I, personally, was so disappointed in him was his lack of leadership in the clubhouse. I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I expected Jr. to take over as the leader in clubhouse as Barry Larkin, got older, but he never did. And as for Jr. taking Dunn under his wing, look at where that has gotten us...a guy who doesn't take the game seriously and makes no effort to be a team player.

    Of the 8 seasons Eric Davis played for the Reds, he played 5 straight where he played no less than 127 games. He also averaged 30 steals over all 8 of those years including one year with 80, which again shows an aggressive player who is trying to do more than hit home runs.

    No intelligent person ever expected Griffey to win a championship without a decent team around him. But if you look at his numbers in Seattle as compared to those in Cincinnati, you can't tell me that a Reds doesn't have a right to be disappointed.

    I don't think it is fair to compare Cincinnati baseball fans with Cincinnati football fans. Although some people may belong to both groups, many do not, myself included. Cincinnati baseball fans know character when they see it, which is why sean casey is still so popular here. And I'm sure if Griffey comes back to GABP in a year or two, he'll get mostly cheers, but they won't be from me.

    Jesse
    July 31, 2008
    07:58 PM EST
    stat seattle avgcincy avg
    G139.5105
    AB530373
    R9759
    H158100
    2b2918
    3b31
    HR3623
    RBI10577
    TB301191
    BB6853
    SO8975
    SB152